Hi guys, DSummon here again with more rulings from the wiki rulings for Exceed, which were supposedly extracted from the rulebook in the structure deck. These were updated onto the page ever since my previous blog post. Will only be putting in additional stuff which was not there previously, so refer to the previous blog post for the complete rulings.
Note: My previous blog post was made on 18 March, so whatever Im posting here was added after that
Extra note: Zombie Carrier and Plaguespreader Zombie are one and the same... Its just that Zombie Carrier is shorter so I shall use that name...
Extra stuff under general rulings
- Exceed materials are not considered to be on the field (as previously mentioned), despite the card text of Exceed Energy stating to remove Exceed materials from the field.
- When an Exceed materials leaves play, it is considered as 'Sent to grave' (Though not from field), and not 'Removed from play'
- The Exceed materials is considered to be similar to magic counters on a card. However, the difference is that the Exceed materials stay on the Exceed monster if it turns face down, unlike how magic counters on a monster are removed.
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Extra stuff under FAQ
Q: Can you use monsters which cannot be released / cannot be used as fusion or synchro materials for an Exceed summon?
A: Yes you may
Q: If you use a trap monster as an Exceed summon, can you use the magic / trap zone the trap monster was originally on?
A: Once the trap monster has been used for an Exceed summon, you may use the magic / trap zone
Q: If you use a monster that was revived through Call of Haunted for an Exceed summon, will Call of Haunted be destroyed?
A: No, Call of Haunted will not be destroyed
Q: If you use a monster that was revived through Angel Lift / Miracle Fertilizer for an Exceed summon, will those cards be destroyed?
A: No, it will not be destroyed
Q: If you use a monster that was revived / controlled through Birthright / Tuner's Scheme for an Exceed summon, will those cards be destroyed?
A: 調整中 (Wiki's famous 3 word answer for to be confirmed)
Q: If you use Doom Shaman's effect to revive a demon from your grave, then use Doom Shaman for an Exceed summon, will the revived demon be destroyed?
A: No, it will not be destroyed (Looks like some new abuse method after Zombie Carrier)
Q: If the Doom Shaman as an Exceed material from the above example is sent to grave, will the revived demon be destroyed?
A: No, it will not be destroyed
Q: When you activate an Exceed monster's effect and remove an Exceed material, is the Exceed material sent to grave?
A: Yes, it is sent to grave (Sounds like some super obvious answer, oh well)
Q: Q: If Banisher of Radiance or Macrocosmos is on the field and the Exceed monster activates its effect and removes an Exceed material, what happens to the Exceed material?
A: The Exceed material is removed from game
Q: If Dimension Fissure is on the field and the and the Exceed monster activates its effect and removes an Exceed material, what happens to the Exceed material?
A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave
-> The above 2 questions are similar to the questions on my previous blog post, with the exception that this is for activating effect, while previously it was for the Exceed monster leaving the field. Seems like an extremely obvious answer which we can derive from the previous example. I guess its just to be even more obvious for questions any rule sharkers may ask
Q: If a Zombie Carrier has used its revival effect, and is used for an Exceed summon, then leaves the field as cost to activate the Exceed monster's effect, is the Zombie Carrier sent to grave?
A: Yes, the Zombie Carrier is sent to grave (Again more obvious answer)
Q: If Dragunity Phalanx is used for an Exceed summon, can you activate Dragunity Phalanx's effect?
A: No, as becoming an Exceed material is different from being an equipment card (LOL question)
Q: If you use Elemental Hero - Absolute Zero for an Exceed summon, can you activate Absolute Zero's effect?
A: No you may not, as the card is not considered to have left field (Fail)
Q: If Elemental Hero - Absolute Zero is an Exceed material and leaves play, can you activate Absolute Zero's effect?
A: No you may not, as the card is not considered to have left field (Even more fail. I guess as per Exceed summon rulings from the previous post, becoming an Exceed material, and from an Exceed material status to enter grave, both are not considered as leaving field) -> No Reborn Tengu abuse for you
Q: If Light & Darkness Dragon is an Exceed material and the Exceed monster is destroyed, can you activate LADD's effect?
A: No, as it is not considered to be destroyed and sent to grave
Q: If you have Demon Summon on the field as an Exceed material with no other cards having Demon in its name, and you activate Falling Down, will Falling Down self destruct?
A: Yes, since you are not considered to have any monsters on the field that has Demon in its name.
Q: If you have Rai-Jin on the field as an Exceed material with no other Rai-Jin on the field, can you summon Rai-Jin?
A: Yes you may, as the previous Rai-Jin is not considered to be on the field
Q: If you have 2 monsters with the effect (You may only have 1 copy of the card with the same name on the field), which had their effect negated by Skill Drain, and both were used for an Exceed summon. If the Skill Drain is destroyed after that, what happens to the 2 Exceed materials with the same name?
A: Nothing happens, as the 2 Exceed materials are not considered as monsters and therefore were not even affected by Skill Drain in the first place (This is in sync with the previous ruling that Exceed materials are not on the field, so they are not even affected by the 'only 1 copy on the field' effect anyway. This is probably a more accurate explanation of the ruling)
Q: A flipped summoned Dark Familiar (TCG - Spear Cretin) is used for an Exceed summon. When it is sent to grave as an Exceed material, can you activate its effect?
A: No you may not. (Seems like a different ruling that conflicts with Dandylion. I would explain it as its effect has disappeared once it became an Exceed material, since its effect has an additional condition to it)
Q: If Vairon Stealer is used for an Exceed summon. When it is sent to grave as an Exceed material, can you activate its effect?
A: No you may not. (Since it is not considered to be on the field, it cannot be considered to have entered grave from the monster card zone)
Q: Can you use Dark Highlander's effect on an Exceed monster which has Exceed material(s)?
A: No as Exceed material(s) is not considered as an equipment card.
Again, a very long post for all the rulings. Hope it proves useful to everyone~
Ty very much, guys!:)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the update.
ReplyDeleteBut what the f*** is it with Absolute Zero's effect not activating? That's not just any fail, that's a BIG fail.
But then again, I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of rank 8 exceeds anyway...
Migraine... I am not looking forward to learning these new rules. They seem very uninstinctive.
ReplyDeleteSo dandylion effects don't activate?
ReplyDeletewas hoping you would say that tokens can exceed llollll..
ReplyDeleteDandylion still activates, since its text is when it enters grave. However Absolute Zero's text states when leave field, so somehow by the ruling for Exceed it doesnt activate. The same would go for all the Reborn Tengu abuse wannabes.
ReplyDeleteI guess because once absolute zero / tengu become an overlay, they are no longer considered as a card, hence the effect cannot activate.
ReplyDeleteso what happens to sangan then?do i get to add something from my deck to my hand through sangan's effect?
ReplyDeleteno you don't, because sangan isn't considered being sent from the FIELD to the grave
ReplyDeletei want to ask if d.d survivor is used as a exceed material while macrocosmos or dimensional fissure is activated and then its removed does it return or stays at the RFG??
ReplyDeleteit will stay RFG, since it was not removed while face up on your side of the field.
ReplyDeleteCan Exceeds be negated by card such as Solemn Judgement/Warning i have been told exceed summoning is its own kind lof summoning that doesnt count as Special Summoning..is this the case. Also How is it that Tengu Gets its effect i still dont understand because the summoning of exceed doesnt remove the materials from the field meaning it never technically leaves the field.
ReplyDeleteDon't ask why Tengu get its effect, because it is another case of "Because Konami said so".
ReplyDeleteAnd XYZ summon is still a special summon.
Hey i have a question.
ReplyDeleteCan XYZ-Monsters be used for another XYZ summon?
So: lvl 4 Exceed (with or without material) + lvl 4 Montster = 1 lvl 4 Exceed with more material?
So basically, ca XYZ monsters be used als XYZ material?
Read the requirements for the XYZ summon written on the card.
ReplyDeleteThe text doesn't give an answer to my question.
ReplyDeleteAs i know XYZ don't have "levels". They have "Ranks".
But i can't find a ruling, if the "level" is equal to the "rank" if it comes to XYZ summons.
Sorry if my english is bad. It's not my native language.
levels are not ranks. If it says 2 level 4 monsters, then they have to be LEVEL 4. An xyz that would require another xyz as material would be cool though.
ReplyDeleteIf you summon an Xyz monster does it count as Special Summon or normal?
ReplyDeletesay that armed dragon level 3 is equiped with megamorph and is then used as an overlay unit is megamorph destroyed or equiped to the xys monster
ReplyDeleteAnything attached to the Monster used as an overlay will be sent to grave,
ReplyDeleteyou can use monster tokens to preform a exceed summon? like dandylion?
ReplyDeleteRead previous post.
ReplyDelete