Thursday, February 2, 2012

What I feel the banlist should look like

Banned

Inzektor Dragonfly
Not working as intended. Inzektor Archetype will be less scary without Dragonfly. They will still be that advantage gaining disgusting deck but at least you won't die from just a 3 card combo.

Monster Reborn
Let's leave the generic powerful revival to Call of the Haunted. Even though it is like a Manga key card.

Trap Dustshoot
Starting first with this wins you game most of the time.

Sangan
There!

Limited

Rescue Rabbit
One card crazy XYZ. One may argue that you have to put Normal monsters but Sabersaurus/Verz Heliolope is not exactly useless.

Wind-up Rat
One card XYZ, promotes loop with Zenmaity even with no Hunter.

Master Hyperion
Stop hitting the Venus and balls. Everyone knows that this is the problem but pretend that Konami will not hit a Structure deck main card.

TG Striker
The reason why many decks has "TG" in their name. A tuner that can be special summoned and splashable.

Semi Limited

Rekindling
Slow down Laval just a little bit.

Emergency Teleport
Oh sure why not.

Unlimited

Summoner Monk
Most decks that used to run Monk don't run them anymore because Effect Veiler wins.

Destiny Draw
No one plays these decks anymore.

Ojama Trio
When was the last time you see a burn deck top.

Magic Cylinder
Thrash in current fast paced meta with multiple removals.


What should come out from Banlist??

I've seen so many choices ranging from Goyo Guardian to Royal Oppression. Since they are all stupid, I'll also come up with one and with logical explanations too!

1) Cyberstein to 1!

*flame shield on!*

Now is the meta where everyone mains 3 Veilers and 3 Fiendish chain. Cyberstein looks like a joke really. It is a 1 shot card effect that if you fail, that's it, nothing to do here. Ok brb, I'll put Sangan in the ban list so that it is not so easily splashable.

In the event that you don't draw Veiler/Fiendish Chain against a deck such as Inzector, you are bound to die anyway.

2) Thousand Eyes Restrict

I think most people don't know the Goat Control Format. It is an ancient story where Scapegoat Tokens become TER through Metamorphosis and keep taking your monsters with the help of Tsukuyomi. Coincidentally this is also the format where there was BLS. BLS remove your monster, Metamorphosis into Cyber Twin Dragon and you die after losing cards every turn. This is also the era where 3 Chain Disappearance was serious business. Oh 2005, can't believe it was that long ago lol.

So anyway, why I think this should come back even though there is such a thing called Instant Fusion. With the current card pool we have, it is not going to be anything with loops or a very good Control deck.

Before you type out your flame post, look at what the current meta is about. Laggia decks clearly are a better control deck, TG Agents and Inzector are all about swarm and OTK.

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Ok aside from what should be unbanned, the rest of the content are serious and what I feel should be done. Comments and discussion are welcome.

V-Jump Magazine will be released on the 21st of February 2012. The real Forbidden and Limited list will be inside. As usual, I would like to warn everyone that there will be plenty of photo shopped image surfacing starting from this week.

If you see one, please don't be too excited and start spreading it. Make sure the photo of proof is taken together with this card because it is the promo card that comes with this issue of the magazine.

44 comments:

  1. Dragonfly banned would kill the Inzektors. I think on 1 its better.

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    1. According to your logic, banning DMoC would kill all dmoc-related FTK. Should you think DMoC at 1 is better?

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    2. DMOC ftk was killed when they banned Dimension Fusion. and that deck wasnt only based on DMOC ftking for damage it was also a oneturn draw out exodia deck. On top on that Dragon fly and Dmoc are 2 extremely different cards compairing them is not a fair compairison for the sake of why it should or should not be banned. Now if you were to persay say that it should be banned off the logic that disk commander or some other spam search/draw card should be banned then sure. such as a card like fishborg... allbeit fishborg by itself even at one managed to make a deck type that just led to absolute shinanigans.

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  2. Will you be posting the banlist when it comes out via jump magazine? :)

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  3. Do you think Metamorphosis have a chance to come out from the banlist if BLS is banned ?

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    1. if metamorphisis came off the ban list it would only mean more abuse for XYZ style decks, not to metion part of the reason so many people hate future fusion is due to chimeratech and machine dump decks. unbanning Metamorphisis would allow for even easier access to the card everyone hates to see come out in a machine deck cyber twin dragon. Personally id loved to relive the days of lvl 8 swaping with cyber twin dragon or run it in a Karakuri deck after using the effect of bureido and then drawing into it swapping it out for a Cyber twin just to have that extra 2800 atk swing on top of the 1 or 2 other bureidos im going to have out to swing with.

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  4. I agree with all the arguments, but dragonfly banned, hyperion, rat and striker limited seem prety exagerated...

    Last time I see a burn top? Last Month in YCS Brighton xD

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    1. Intended to be exaggerated.

      This is what I feel it should look like, not what it would look like =P

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  5. Last time burn topped?
    YCS Brighton :x

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    1. how about last time burn topped consistently or had more than one deck of the same basic build top. such as plants and agents have done.

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  6. Aww damn, I forgot to put above

    "the following list is based on the OCG meta"

    Oh well..

    Anyway we will put up the magazine scans when we get it, but I'm sure other countries (Japan) will get it first since we have to wait a few days before it reaches our local bookstore here in Singapore.

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  7. give plants a chance! semi debris!

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    1. someone hasn't payed attention to the fact that plants no matter how hard they are hit still do well. If your plant deck isn doing well then its constructed poorly. Plants continue to come in some close to top spot even after all the hits.

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  8. Yeah, Stein to 1!
    Players wont have space for good fusions in their Extra Decks anyway with all those Synchros and Xyz around, :))

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  9. I agree entirely on ur list but to be perfect just two extra things:

    1)Ban Leviair:the re-usee of Rabbit and the Infernity Loop alongside the fact it is a powerful recycling engine


    For the Lulz:2)Rageki Back if go second against Wind-Ups at least gives us back one of the bests or even the best topdeck of the game(alongside the fact its my favorite spell card of the game and I really miss her)

    AND CYBER STEIN TO 1!!!

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    1. yes that is Lulz because rageki would probably come back far slower than harpies for the simple fact people bitch more about losing front row tahn back row and konami listens to pojo forums when considering what scrubs think should and should not be banned based on what they can or cannot afford or figure out how to play/ build or play against/ side for. Honestly if they tested what they released the ban list would be alot smaller and the effects would be alot less abusable. this is what ive seen since september 2002. I was mad when the ban list was released due to not being a competitive player back then however i understand now why it put inplace. Konami not UDE who used to be in charg of the ban list fails to care about what they release to the extent of only releasing it if they know its not too abusable from first glance on the majority of the cards.

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  10. u forgot dark worlds

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    1. no I didnt, they are not really performing in the current OCG meta.

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  11. TER to 1 would spawn a Limit Reverse + Graceful Revival + Instant Fusion deck; it would be almost like Disk Commander in that sense (summon TER, steal, Tribute for a Monarch, rinse and repeat).

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    1. What if TER then get hit by a crow, what will the deck have left.

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  12. magic ylinder shoudl never be at 3 2 is max
    and the rest of teh list is good
    nothing coming off is a good choice imo
    but bls needs to go and thunder king needs a hit it may seem like iuts easy to get over but its too good
    its not broken but too good in one card aside from tourguide and it cancels tourguide out too

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    1. It's not like people are playing any Cylinders at all.

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  13. Cyberstein to 1!!! :)

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  14. I've seen so many choices ranging from Goyo Guardian to Royal Oppression. Since they are all stupid, I'll also come up with one and with logical explanations too!


    "... ranging from Goyo Guardian to Royal Oppression. Since they are all stupid, ......" speaks ALL the truth. I did not really understand why people would cry for an unban of Goyo Guardian.

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  15. I think Cylinder Still 2, with 3 is easy to kill ur opponent.
    I like monster reborn n a want reborn limited.
    Black Luster soldier have to banned, a lot of deck plays with Effect Veiler, Rai-oh,Gorz,D.D. Crow, only to hav Darks n Lights in Grave and Ss Bls-EotB.
    I'm tired of so many Chaos decks.
    Before September 2011 bw and infernitys had not Rai-oh, cuz Bls was Banned.

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  16. And o think Dark world is strong now,at least on TCG, and i think Snoww limited will make the deck slower

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  17. If konami ever cared about TCG players...

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  18. 1 Year back, konami limited Royal Tribute when nobody was playing GK in OCG...
    Rabbit, Inzektor and Wind-Up are the decks to be hitted, the rest is still equilibrated...

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  19. Thousand-Eyes Restrict? Really? Two words: Instant Fusion. D.D. Crow doesn't even matter at that point. All that would matter is that you were able to suck up something. And if you WERE able to bring it back, that just means lockdown. There's also Book of Moon, which would make things even worse.

    No, TER can stay banned. Cyber-Stein too, for that matter. It was banned five days after a Stein OTK deck won an SJC, and for good reason.

    Cylinder is dangerous enough at 2. With 3, it becomes easy to kill your opponent. "Cards can counter cards" is not a good argument.

    Ojama Trio would not be used for burn, but for filling up your opponent's Monster Zones. The tokens cannot be Tributed for a Tribute Summon. Couple this with Spatial Collapse and your opponent won't be able to play anymore cards. Plus, it'd be easy to stop them from attacking with the Tokens by simply playing Defense or using Wall of Revealing Light.

    Summoner Monk would just make Stardust/Assault decks easier to play. Now, I LOVE Stardust/Assault. I still don't want to see this happen.

    Emergency Teleport... I still remember TeleDAD. Let it stay at 1.

    Other than maybe Monster Reborn and Inzektor Dragonfly, I don't really object to anything else. Dragonfly might be Limited, and I think Reborn is fine. All of your other suggestions I agree with completely.

    Except Rabbit. Ban that crap. Rescue Cat was broken as soon as X-Sabers gave it options. Rescue Rabbit was broken as soon as it came out thanks to Evolzars.

    Konami, you SUCK at making replacement cards, so STOP TRYING.

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    1. win at the last phrase XD

      but seriously why not emergency teleport at 2?

      no one uses Psychics with teleport they may be used sometimes so they wont fall into Oblivion(like Pyro,Aqua and Thunder)

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    2. TeleDAD didn't rely on Mind Master. It relied on Krebons and Destiny HERO - Malicious.

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  20. You hit TG Agents too hard.

    All you need is to put Venus to 1. Doing so drops the number of playable Agents from 6 to 4, which makes Hyperion a greater liability early game unless they run 1-2 Jupiter, which slows down the deck significantly.

    Once the single Venus gets stopped, the deck loses great momentum and faces an uphill climb from there.

    It'll also make Thunder King 10x more effective against Agents, since less chance they go Venus, double shine ball, and force negate with Gachi.

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    1. Id rather have agents that can have a variety of plays in the form of Venus and balls rather than a stupid beat down deck.

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  21. bad banlist prediction is really bad.

    Banned
    Inzektor Dragonfly (ok, however I would guess limit for it)

    Monster Reborn
    ok, but wont happen

    Trap Dustshoot
    stupid, wont happen

    Sangan
    wont happen

    Where the f@ck is BLS? Yeah u think sangan is the broken and not BLS...


    Limited

    Rescue Rabbit not the problem. Limit Laggia plz.

    Wind-up Rat
    Nah, Limit Zenmaity.

    Master Hyperion
    Wont happen. Best is a semi-limit.

    TG Striker
    Nah.

    Semi Limited

    Rekindling
    Yeah... kill lavals... (stupid)

    Emergency Teleport
    Maybe

    Unlimited

    Summoner Monk
    Ok.

    Destiny Draw
    Ok.

    Ojama Trio
    When was the last time you see a burn deck top.
    Well in December. But its ok.

    Magic Cylinder
    Ok.

    Limiting cyberstain is just... :facepalm: really!?

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  22. My thoughts are this:

    Banned:
    Sangan
    Monster Reborn

    Limited:
    Archlord Kristya
    Inzektor Dragonfly
    Rescue Rabbit

    Semi-Limited
    Master Hyperion

    Off the list: Chaos Emperor Dragon at 1.(doubt it but I can dream lol, but with BLS coming off the list who knows what konami will surprise us with)Royal oppression to 1 and emergency teleport to 2.

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  23. ok i can agree with cyberstien, and T.E.REstrict. especially these days seriously what possible deck can abuse these 2 and not risk losing from a simple veiler or anyone of multiple hand/effect traps. Also why is tribe infecting virus still banned i have to wonder. Even with its effect there is nothign broke that comes of it. Most decks these days no longer consist of same creature type so at most you would net an equal trade unless ofcoarse any one of the numerous effect negaters came into play.

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  24. konami should unban every card and not make any card limited or semi limited so then all of our favorite decks from a certain format can be competitive against every other deck lol, even though im sure this idea would cause lots of chaos :p

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  25. Banned

    Inzektor Dragonfly
    the main card of this deck is Hornet

    Monster Reborn
    If Monster Reborn banned, unbanned Lv6 Synchro "Monster Reborn" 2800 beatstick

    Trap Dustshoot
    Ok

    Sangan
    won't happen

    Limited

    Rescue Rabbit
    Ok

    Wind-up Rat
    this should be banned. This is what make Wind-Up from need Skill deck become auto-pilot deck

    Master Hyperion
    cover boy from Structure deck never hit banned list

    TG Striker
    Ok

    Semi Limited

    Rekindling
    No reason for Rekindling. If u recall, Mind Master is LIGHT/Lv1/Tuner. Fishborg is WATER/Lv1/Tuner. and Laval? who is FIRE/Lv1/Tuner???

    Emergency Teleport
    Ok

    Unlimited

    Summoner Monk
    Ok

    Destiny Draw
    Exodia, anyone?

    Ojama Trio
    Ok

    Magic Cylinder
    Ok

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    1. Rekindling
      No reason for Rekindling. If u recall, Mind Master is LIGHT/Lv1/Tuner. Fishborg is WATER/Lv1/Tuner. and Laval? who is FIRE/Lv1/Tuner???

      clearly you dont know there is this deck in the OCG called Laval

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  26. FAIL FAIL STUPID JAPANESE

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  27. take away sangan, and give me witch of the black forest.

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  28. Banned:
    monster reborn
    mind control

    Limited:
    magician of faith
    damsel
    agent venus
    instant fusion

    Semi-limited:
    rescue rabbit
    agent earth
    hornet
    evolval lagia
    ultimate offering

    Off-listed:
    call of haunted
    ojama trio
    mind crush
    sword of revealing light
    destiny draw
    magical stone

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  29. i hav an instinct, it says here bls bann on sep n bring bk chaos emperor n konami reprint it on GS5 in 2013, konami is creating profit again ! darn it.

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